<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>Am 08.05.2013 um 14:12 schrieb Jakob Schwendner:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 05/08/2013 10:24 AM, Malte Wirkus wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Thank you all for your responses.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Back to my initial question: If you are interested in what I provided. <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">What I read from the responses, the majority says 'no', because there <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">are better file formats available or other libraries that might be <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">used for rendering.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Jakob's point is interesting:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I did a hack back then for mars models, which is in <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">simulation/mars_viz.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">So, something akin is already done. Then of cause it's not necessary <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">to use my software for ROCK. One could rather think about integrating <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">URDF support into the existing software.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Unfortunately I can't find it. That is maybe because I don't really <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">know where to look for it (I looked at <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.rock-robotics.org/master/pkg/index.html">http://www.rock-robotics.org/master/pkg/index.html</a> and used the search <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">functionality of the ROCK website).<br></blockquote>Its on the spacegit server (dfki internal) <br><a href="http://spacegit.dfki.uni-bremen.de/mars/mars_viz">http://spacegit.dfki.uni-bremen.de/mars/mars_viz</a><br>That is why you didn't find it in the external package list. I don't see <br>a reason though why it shouldn't be on gitorious. Only that it really is <br>a HACK. Its basically running a full rigid body simulation in order to <br>perform the forward kinematics calculation.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>With the latest version of MARS it should be possible to use the mars_viz plugin without the need of running a full simulation behind the scene. But still there is a lot of potential for improvements. Maybe we will work on that in LIMES.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><br><blockquote type="cite">As a ROCK newbie, I think it should be easier to find and use, even if <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">it's not perfectly aligned with the theories on how such a software <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">would look like in the optimal case. The reason for this is that I <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">think a robot visualization is, a quite essential _tool_ for people <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">working with robots.. as with most tools, it's better to have one than <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">not having one.<br></blockquote>Other than that, I agree with Sylvain and Alex, and what I pointed out <br>as option (a). Would be great to have it. Would be even greater to go <br>for (b), but if a lot of the work is already done (a) is absolutely more <br>than welcome, and would be a good contribution to rock.<br><br>cheers,<br><br>Jakob<br>_______________________________________________<br>Ric-mars mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ric-mars@dfki.de">Ric-mars@dfki.de</a><br>http://www.dfki.de/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/ric-mars<br></div></blockquote></div><br><div>
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