[Rock-dev] csv_logger and rock-toolchain

[Alexander Duda]

On 11/13/2013 08:27 AM, Matthias Goldhoorn wrote:
> On 12.11.2013 20:45, Sylvain Joyeux wrote:
>> Hey. "Somebody" ;-) sneaked a csv_logger package in the rock-toolchain
>> package set.
> *here*
>> In my opinion, rock-toolchain is a "toolCHAIN", not a "toolSHED" or a
>> "toolSET". Meaning: it is designed to have tools that work together to
>> form a whole, this whole allowing to solve the greater problem (in our
>> case: building robots).
>>
>> This csv_logger really does not have its place. We already have a very
>> well-integrated logger, and if a better csv export is required, it
>> should IMO be in the form of an improvement of the CSV export of pocolog.
> The problem there is that my "user" requests to have a logger for _A_
> component (including input connections). Since this is not known in the
> log's anymore i need to do this during runtime.  The csv_ logger is not
> mentioned to replace the current one, as written in the desc. it's only
> for debugging components with tools like matlab.
The problem is that we are starting to have different workflows to do 
the same task. In your case I would really go for the normal logger and 
extend pocolog or rock-export to convert the log data to csv. This has 
the benefit that you can use all the infrastructore we have to inspect 
log files (rock-replaly, rock-convert etc.). CSV is just a very specific 
view on the logged data. And if you do not like the tooling everyone is 
open for improving our workflow (guis, etc.)

I agree, that we lose the information about the connections if syskit is 
not used and I am open for any discussions to solve this issue in a 
generic way and not just for the CSV logging.

Greets
Alex

>> In general, please PLEASE refrain from adding packages to the "core"
>> rock (rock-toolchain, rock-base) without discussing it on the ML.
> *ack, but added orogen_metadata also already, as discussed in personal*
> Nerveless where should the logger go?, rock.base, rock?,
> project-internal (*against since it's still from my point of view
> general useable).
>
>> Sylvain
> P.S. @Sylvain your coffee is on my desk ;)
>
> Matthias
>


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